Episode #15 Complacency Makes Us Blind; Resets Brings Us Home Safe

Routine can be a silent trap. When you’ve sprayed the same plan a hundred times, it’s easy to slide into autopilot—and that’s when ladders slip, hoses chafe on flashing, and “brand-new” gear surprises you with a missing O-ring. We unpack how complacency creeps into job sites and share a ten-minute safety reset that helps crews see hazards before they strike.

We start with a candid look at why experienced techs are often the ones who get hurt, then walk through a practical hazard scan: roof edges and tie-offs, ladder setup with proper extension and securement, sharp edges along hose routes, and airflow and exit routes for attics and crawl spaces. We also dig into PPE discipline most people overlook—like swapping soaked spray gloves for chemical-rated gloves when changing drums or cleaning guns—and how a quick equipment preflight can prevent messy blowouts and downtime.

Communication is the thread that binds it all. Borrowing ideas from aviation’s crew resource management, we show how a short spoken brief pulls safety out of the subconscious and into the open. Assign roles, invite callouts from helpers, and normalize pauses after a near miss. Add in simple checks for power shutoffs during retrofits, and you’ve got a safety playbook that’s fast, repeatable, and built for real production schedules.

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Transcript

Welcome Back & Today’s Focus

unknown 0:32

Now we're recording.

SPFA Convention Announcement

SPEAKER_02 0:33

Okay. Welcome back to another episode of Toolbox Talks on Safety, where we break down real-world job site hazards, building science best practices, and everything that keeps our team safe and coming home every day. I'm your host, Dan Benedict with Spray Foam Arizona. And today we're talking about a topic that hits every single person in this industry, no matter how experienced they are, complacency. We're calling this one the 10-minute safety reset: fighting complacency on the job site. And joining me as always, installer, trainer, all around building science brain, Mr. Jeremiah Schoenberg.

SPEAKER_00 1:09

Thanks, Dan. Always good to be here. This topic, man, I mean, complacency always has caused more injuries than any of the other single factor. I mean, um, no lack of training, no equipment predators, just good people um getting too comfortable and it becoming an issue for sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:26

Yeah, definitely. And before we get into it, um, got a couple things to go over. One, uh, our sabbatical has ended.

unknown 1:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:33

I was gonna say something. I was like, it's been a bit.

SPEAKER_02 1:35

It's been a bit, yeah. Well, you know, and I was hoping for like a rendition of back in the saddle again from your Aerosmith cover band days when you're out on the road with them. I'd work it. Wear your Steven Tyler outfit, get some scarves around the microphone.

SPEAKER_00 1:48

I don't know if I could pull off a Steven Tyler outfit.

SPEAKER_02 1:51

Dress like somebody's grandma. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:55

It's a lot of scarves, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:56

It's a lot of scarves, it sure is. But you had good times on the road, and yeah, yeah, and your cover band there. Um, the other thing we wanted to bring up is SPFA convention time coming up in March. And wait, it's gonna be a good time. It's gonna be awesome. The highlight of the entire thing, no matter what you think you're looking forward to, is breakout session number three Tuesday, uh, 1115. Um we're bringing the uh spray phone mafia road show to you guys in person.

SPEAKER_00 2:30

Yes, sir. That would be great.

SPEAKER_02 2:32

Yeah. Um, so we're talking about safety, we're talking about setting up your whole safety plan for your company so that you can take away something and practically apply it every single day.

SPEAKER_00 2:43

Yeah, going from both sides from contracting, manufactured, tech, and everything to try and really go over as much as we can to in person to really give you guys something to look at as far as your own programs and if there's any fine-tuning um that's there, you know, hopefully we can bring stuff some of that stuff to life for you.

SPEAKER_02 2:59

Yeah. And on top of that, we are head to head with Spencer Hart, spray phone marketing genius, uh, good friend of ours, fellow podcaster with the Phone to Fortune podcast. Um, his session is going on at the exact same time, and uh there will be a wager placed at some point between now and then on who can fill up the room first. And as we always say, there's winners and losers. We do not come in second place ever.

SPEAKER_00 3:25

I mean, I want to be a winner, but I was drug into this. I'm just saying. Like I I found out about this after I promised to do the breakout session. So, you know, I gotta win, but right, I'm not streaking or anything else if we lose, though. That's not gonna be part of the deal.

SPEAKER_01 3:38

That's not gonna be part of the deal. No, no. Uh you get to do if you everybody lose.

SPEAKER_02 3:43

Everybody loses if you start streaking, Jeremiah. I'll agree.

SPEAKER_01 3:46

I'll definitely agree.

SPEAKER_02 3:48

So, anyway, we look forward to seeing people there. Like I said, it's gonna be a great session, lots of information, have a couple little giveaways that we're gonna be doing there. Um, just some cool little stuff for people, little history, you know, a few fun things like that. So, anyhow, uh, I guess we can get on to what we're here to talk about is complacency. And we can go on with how complacency has crept into our own jobs. Um, and let's be honest. I mean, we've we're both guilty of it.

The Silent Drift Into Routine

SPEAKER_00 4:20

Oh, yeah. I mean, I mean, after all these years of being doing this, whether it's in a job site as a contractor, now as a tech, like you do get too comfortable um, no matter who you are, you're a human being, you get you do something the same every day over and over again. You tend to forget the food, the little things like you know, putting on the safety glasses or wearing the right steel toes, or you know, all those little things, you know, you just it becomes a little bit monotonous, and I think that's what people start to forget. Yeah, the need for it. Because if you don't, if you you know are blessed enough never to have been hurt on a job, then you again you have never seen the the I guess the fruits of your labor is kind of bad, terrible. But if you've never gotten hurt, you you get complacent. The fact that you've been doing it, oh, I can take away. No, it works because you keep doing it, like a quality, good quality control program. You keep doing it if it works, right? You don't stop, right? And that's where again people stop doing something for nine times out of ten, that's when they get hurt.

A Job Walk Story With Missed Cues

SPEAKER_02 5:15

Yeah, and we've got a builder that we spray about a house a week for, and the guy has got three floor plans. So when you walk in, you know exactly what you're coming to see every time. And so the other day I went down and Ireland and I were headed down there to knock one of these houses out. And this guy's a little 1600 square foot plan, uh, real clean, real easy, typically one-day in-and-out job. And she and I never said a word to each other from the second we got out of the truck until uh I asked her to spot me and help me pull the hose up into the attic at about 10 o'clock in the morning. And when I'm sitting there looking at show notes for this, I was looking at that, I'm like, how did three hours go by? And we got a lot accomplished in three hours, but we never communicated a word to each other, never said there was boards and drywall stacked in the garage, which has never happened on any of his sites before. Um there was some water pipe, some um inch and a half PVC water pipe sitting there against the wall. You don't hardly ever see that in there. But again, if when a guy's masked up spraying and you walk right up beside the wall, you step right on inch and a half pipe, you're gonna roll your butt right onto the concrete. Yeah. Um and that just led into this show. Exactly. I'm like, that is so it's so easy to fall into that routine. And not that we weren't looking out for each other, but we were just focused on being productive.

SPEAKER_00 6:54

Yeah, I think that's where uh as a tech, you kind of you don't get into that because I go to train people. Um, you know, when I walk into a house, it's always a different, you know, every week's a different company, you know. Thankfully, you know, I get to go back. But I've always walking into a house and doing the first thing I always did with my own my own houses, my own jobs is I walk the house and I get in the habit of grabbing Ireland, whoever else is the helper there, and we walk through the house together, you know, for penetrations. Is the felt on the roof? Is is there penetrations out the out the walls that you have to look at? It where's the dividing walls? And I get I think I get into such a habit of the training, like thankfully, um that's one of the things that I I'm definitely it's kind of like breathing now. Um and I haven't, but again, you can get out of it to where again you're just every morning you're doing your thing with your crew and everyone has their job, right? And I I've you know done it myself, but uh thankfully, like I said, I think as a tech, you you're always in a different location, so it's always fresh, right? And that's the difference from contracting and teching.

SPEAKER_01 7:55

Right. You know, teching. Is that uh official? Like, is that in the dictionary? I think so. I think so.

SPEAKER_00 8:01

We're not gonna we're not gonna add that one.

SPEAKER_01 8:03

We're not going to semantics of language.

SPEAKER_02 8:05

I don't even know. Yeah. Anyway, so the other thing to talk about is the other day you and I were on a job site spraying, and we grabbed a brand new gun. I mean, a flat brand new, never been sprayed out of gun before. It was assembled, threw the manifold on it, cracked the valve open, and a lovely shower of B-side came a flying out of everything. And when we shut everything off and cleaned up, the O-ring was missing off the check valve. The face O-ring was there, it was the internal O-ring that was missing on a brand new gun. And why two of us never even thought, well, maybe we ought to look at O-rings on a brand new gun, but it just happened.

SPEAKER_00 8:54

And you just even the brand new stuff you take apart and check everything before you get going.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

Right.

New Gun, Missing O-Ring Lesson

SPEAKER_00 9:01

You know, we've had stuff directly from manufacturers of equipment stuff, but you know, you don't again you get complacent, you don't check everything. Um, you have leaks out of lines that aren't, you know, torqued to the specification and things like that. And same with the guns, like things happen sometime, but that's again, like you said, we didn't check every we're good.

SPEAKER_02 9:20

Let's go, let's get this done. We're having a good time together. Yeah. And then again, with that yeah, and then it stopped. Quing.

SPEAKER_00 9:27

Yeah, I mean, there's like I said, you know, uh I I one of the ones we talk about is the complacency, is again like the safety aspect of the chemicals we work with, right? And I know I get on guys about, you know, we all wear the spray gloves because we're holding that gun for you know four to eight hours a day and we're moving and stuff. But when you're one of the things when you go to change a barrel or work on your gun, the guys keep them on.

SPEAKER_01 9:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:52

Again, a complacency you've realized that you're wearing those all day and you're spraying with them, but those gloves aren't meant to do all the other things you need to do in your job. Barrels, cleaning your gun, spray cleaner, uh, all the cleaners we use, but you're wearing gloves that basically absorb that stuff. Um again, a little thing that we all do, myself included, yeah. You're in a rush, you don't take those gloves off. And that's why I try and get I get in a tendency when it's not 100 degrees here in Arizona or 120 to wear the gloves under my spray gloves, because then again, I can take that off and instantly have it fish and flies. But again, it's just one of those little things that we kind of skip over.

SPEAKER_02 10:26

And you know, a nitrile dip glove with a cloth back or a woven back on it. Yeah, you go change a drum out, something's dripping on that glove. And then guess what? You're now sweating and helping absorb that into your skin the rest of the day.

SPEAKER_00 10:39

Yeah, and even if it's on the front, you still have the felt and stuff on the back. And guys, just gotta again, one of the things we kind of skip over once in a while, right?

PPE Shortcuts And Chemical Contact

SPEAKER_02 10:47

So yeah, exactly. Yep, yeah, and you know, it's scary. Most of the time you just don't ever see it coming because you're such a you're in such a groove, you're just moving along, doing your thing that you do every single day. And so because you've done it every single day without incident, you assume that today is the day you're gonna do it without incident, also.

SPEAKER_00 11:09

Yeah, it's yeah, one simple misstep. It's you know, how many times have any of us gone to do something and we got our safety glasses on because we can't see exactly right? We pick them up, put them on our forehead while we're doing right, you know, things like that, right? You don't, it's those little steps, you know, and you you miss those, and that's where you know, you put those up on your head, next thing you know, you're messing with the valves, you have them on your forehead in front of your eyes, stuff like that. The guys it it sometimes does take the conscious effort to do those things, you're like, oh crap.

SPEAKER_02 11:39

Yeah, exactly. So yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, so um, yeah, this there's this like a whole science behind it. You know, you do a little research online with this stuff, and it's all neuroscience, and it tells us something interesting that when you repeat a task over and over again, your brain shifts from consciously thinking about it to a subconscious routine. Um, and that's why you can drive a rig, walk a roof, spray a wall, and look back and go, I don't even remember getting all that done. Yeah, but it's done. Um, and that's all just yeah, become subconscious to everything.

SPEAKER_00 12:21

Well, like if I'm on a job site with with a client, I automatically start doing the things that aren't being done. Like if they're pulling a hose, I'm behind the person pulling the hose. And if we're moving a barrel, I'm in the rig helping move the A side instead of the B side. Like, and that's with clients. Like, I'm not, it's not my family, but you instantly get in that habit, like riding a bike, right? You're like, oh shoot, this needs to be done. And it's again like you just get in that, like you said, a habit's built no matter who I'm with or what I'm doing, it's it's always there, and it's been like you said, it's built. You have to consciously think about stopping. Yeah, so yeah, yeah.

Neuroscience Of Habits At Work

SPEAKER_02 12:56

Yeah, exactly. And so one of the things we can do um is a hazard scan. Is you know, when you look around, just spend a minute looking around and start scanning things for issues. Um, you know, one of them is sharp edges along hose routes. Um you know, when are you most likely to trip and fall is pulling that stinking hose around. And so if there's a sharp edge there for you to trip over, one start dragging my hose over a sharp edge. You're gonna see an angry rig on her really fast. Yeah, um, but again, trip and fall onto a sharp edge. Now we have punctures, lacerations, all those kind of things to deal with um at that moment.

SPEAKER_00 13:46

Blowing hose if it's really bad.

SPEAKER_02 13:48

Blowing hose was really bad. Then you got a lot of people. Yeah. Dang it. Come on. Yeah. Oh, exactly. And it's happened to us all. We've all had that little nail or the little corner of the stepco lap that sticks out, and you just kind of whip the hose away from it.

SPEAKER_00 14:05

Uh how's your whip doing?

SPEAKER_02 14:07

Uh it's fine.

SPEAKER_00 14:08

Is it all taped up now?

SPEAKER_02 14:10

Yeah, and protected with a little bit of a little bit of extra wrap on it and everything, too.

SPEAKER_01 14:15

Yeah, exactly. Yes. Yeah, we we did. We we took the picture we were shown and did something with it.

SPEAKER_00 14:22

That's all we can ask. It's like if you see something, you get you fix it, right? I know there's there's stuff you've seen in the attic and things like that, but as a it doesn't matter who you are, if you see something that you know is gonna cause a problem or could cause a problem, you take care of it right there or at the end of the day to make sure the next day you're not because we all know, like, oh, I'll take care of the next day, oh tomorrow, up tomorrow, and then it's the weekend, and then it's Monday, and you're off to the whole new week and you forget. Yeah, it's we're busy. It's like that's why you know you see something, you stop, you take care of it, and then you move on because you are gonna forget it, because we are all very, very busy right now.

Do A Fast Hazard Scan

SPEAKER_02 14:56

Yeah, and communication, just communicating those in like I'll always, if I see something, I'll always tell one of my helpers, like, hey, remind me of that. Remind me of this as we get because heck, I'll get spraying, doing stuff, phones ringing at the same time, you're talking to new customers, you're calling the office for things. It's so easy to let uh something small slip your mind, like like a whip that the covering has been worn off of it over time. You know, you don't think about it because it's not a real problem in front of you at the moment, but it's about to be really close to your face in your hands, too, where they're on that whip. So um uh roofing guys, roof edges. I mean, just walking a roof and looking like okay, these are you know where we need to start putting up our safety barriers. This is where we need to line up fall protection. Um, there's a lot of guys that on a roof, like a residential roof that's you know 10 foot high.

SPEAKER_00 16:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:01

Let's go throw the hoses up, let's start spraying.

SPEAKER_00 16:07

Or above the roof line the proper distance, right? There is literally regulations and rules for everything we do. And you again, you should know know them because I believe it's like three feet, right? Above the line. Okay, and that ladder is supposed to be tied off because none of us are freaking featherweights, man, like climbing up on these roofs.

SPEAKER_02 16:26

How dare you say that about me?

Roof Work, Ladders, And Tie-Offs

SPEAKER_00 16:29

What's guilty? Maybe and it's it's not just that, it's like you get on that ladder and you're climbing up there is you know, you could you could pull just right and that ladder could pop off the ridge, or the the securing is there for again for your safety. And again, when you're climbing over the parapet or over the edge on the ladder, again, you're you're pushing off the edge of the roof, and that ladder needs to be secured. It's it's these little things that we don't we don't think about until it something happens. Ladder slides off the roof, and when you're coming to get down, or it's at the wrong angle because you you didn't freaking do it properly, so it's freaking teetering off the side of the roof. You know, it's it's everything we do needs to be a little bit thought about. Once you again you start doing it, it it seems like a big deal to a lot of guys to add, you know, three things to their day. Yes, but you start doing them it be again, like you daniel you said, you're not thinking about it anymore. You put the ladder up that goes three feet, and then you tie it off, then you get on, you know, the first person ties the roof off, ties the ladder off. I'm sorry. Exactly. Um, but yeah, it's that's kind of stuff we have to think about because again, you exponentially double, triple, and quadruple the the safety issues that you can have with the second you step on a roof, right? If you're not doing it properly.

SPEAKER_02 17:39

Yeah, exactly. Um I mean, other little things, pinch points, um, confined spaces. Uh, how many guys just dive into attics anymore? I mean, if you do attics every day, an attic is a confined space in for your crawl space, is but that's your normal day. So, what do you think about it? Just my day. Yeah, you don't do you set up, you know, positive airflow.

SPEAKER_00 18:02

I I I I do. I try to pop my head in the attic to figure out how how I'm getting in there, how I'm getting out um prior to it. Right. Make sure that I have a escape route, quote unquote. Right. Or know where I'm going if something does happen. Primarily, you don't want to go through the drywall if something happens. And if you don't plan before you go in, you're gonna end up in a situation where you have to do something drastic, like go through drywall or something like that, right? Then so you have to again have a plan and execute it properly.

SPEAKER_02 18:30

Right. Exactly. Um, heat sources, stored energy, power lines or electrical lines. Um, I mean, you a retrofit in a house. Who goes and shuts the breaker off? Who shuts the panel and tag and does a tag out on it?

SPEAKER_00 18:46

Tag out, probably not, but most hopefully most guys are turning off HVAC, they're checking for old knob and tube wiring. Yes. Again, it's just stuff that, like you said, again, it's all about complacency, right? You've done okay, oh, it's just another attic.

SPEAKER_02 18:59

Just another attic, that's right.

SPEAKER_00 19:01

And you can't think about that. I it's engineering controls are meant to be preventative and done before the job starts, right? And if you plan before the job starts or before you start to pull the trigger, again, you're gonna you're gonna see things that most guys or most people might, again, if you're complacent, you might miss, right?

Confined Spaces And Escape Routes

SPEAKER_02 19:18

So yeah, exactly. And so, you know, like unexpected moves, you know, and surprises or changes, you know, can get people hurt, and good communication with the people around you, especially when you have more inexperienced people on your crew, they may see something that the experienced guys don't. And good communication with those people and giving them the confidence to say something will fight complacency.

SPEAKER_00 19:49

That's true, because it I mean, I would get venture to guess that a lot of times these accidents are the guys that have been doing it 10, 15, 20 years. It's not the new, it's not as much. I know new guys, yes, new people. The beginners, bad luck, but a lot of times you hear about the guy that's been doing it 15 years, and he, like I said, put his safety glass up on his forehead and went with the grinder, and next next thing you know, that went bad. Or the guy that goes in the attic because he's been doing it for freaking this is his 20th attic that that month, and he's popping in again and he forgot he forgot to check everything, forgot to check for Nuban Nuban Tob. He forgot to turn off the HVAC unit. So when he's up there, those little things, but the new guy, you train them to do that stuff from the get-go, right? They can catch it. They'll say, Oh, hey, by the way, you know. Uh, but yeah, I mean, experienced beginner, novice, green, they everyone has to look at it the same way.

SPEAKER_01 20:45

Right.

Power, Lockout, And Retrofits

SPEAKER_00 20:45

You know, because again, you you do get to the point where you're just you just yeah, go into your dish. Go into your dish. You said you guys three hours, you didn't say a word. Yeah. Right. That's why, you know, I try and do, you know, the the initial job site talks and things like that. If you're the foreman, I know you got to get in the habit of doing that stuff, especially if you see someone every freaking day and you're doing the same three houses over and over again. You have to get in that habit of communicating. So if you see something when you do your housewalk, you tell the other person, or you know, like that's why the helpers always have uh laser pointers when I'm training guys, because if your helpers below you and you're in the attic or you're up on a scaffolding, most of the time you can't see something the guy on the ground can see. So, you know, guys shouldn't take it offensively when a helper starts to point stuff out. That's a good thing. You've trained them properly, right?

SPEAKER_01 21:32

Yeah, uh-huh, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 21:33

That's what they're there for. Point it out. You can't see, oh, catch that before you climb down your freaking three tiers of scaffolding. And then you're really happy you got to go back up, right?

SPEAKER_02 21:41

So yeah, exactly. So uh anyway, so yeah, a mental reset. Um, everybody on the crew, just when you get there, get started or something, just reset your face. Grab a bottle of water, walk through it with everybody, everybody point out some hazards, get your head right, and then you can start your day.

SPEAKER_00 22:03

Yeah, it was again you get in that habit, you get you know that you have to do it, yeah, and you get used to it, and it's not it again, it becomes a habit. You won't even realize that you're doing these things and these little steps to to maintain everything and not get complacent, right?

Empower Helpers To Speak Up

SPEAKER_02 22:18

So uh you know it it it's interesting when you get into like the airline pilots, two guys that may have 10, 15,000 hours of flight time. In the same type of airplanes over and over again. Um, they have a deal they call crew resource management. And those two guys will brief each other on every step and every flight segment that there is. Like I said, they may have done it 10,000 times in their deal, but they're gonna sit there and they're gonna walk through, you know, these are our rotation speeds that take off. This is what we do if we hit this point and we lose an engine or something like that. They say it verbally to each other and acknowledge it to each other every single time. And foam doesn't have to be that extreme, but we're not gonna have like a briefing every time a guy gets on scaffolding, but you ought to brief every time you're at a new job site.

SPEAKER_00 23:11

Yeah, I mean, commercial residential, it changes every day. And you have to be communicating with each other. Like you said, you see something, you talk to your crew about it, you talk to your helper about it, make sure you're both on the same page.

SPEAKER_01 23:21

Right.

SPEAKER_00 23:22

And like you said, just communicating, it makes sure people, oh oh, this must be important. Right.

SPEAKER_02 23:27

Talking, we're usually not yeah, we're ripping it out of the subconscious and putting it into your conscious thought. Yeah. And you know, the bottom line as we start to wrap up here is complacency, it's a silent killer. You know, it's the one nobody talks about or nobody thinks about. You know, it just creeps in, it kind of hides in the background, all sneaky-like. Um, and it feels harmless, but it's not. And it's what hurts the most experienced guys.

SPEAKER_00 23:54

Well, uh, yeah, I mean, that's the way we talk about pausing and resetting down on a job site. If you're frustrated, it works the same if you're frustrated on a job site. Stop, think about it, pause, talk to your crew if you have to.

SPEAKER_01 24:07

Yeah.

Crew Briefings And CRM Mindset

SPEAKER_00 24:08

Anything to restart your yourself, right? Um, whether you almost had a a near miss or you're there's a problem. Like if you just stop and think about it for a minute, it will it will make sure the next time you're like, you'll pause before you get close, right? Before you're at the edge of the cliff, so to speak, right? Yeah. And again, any job, Dan. It doesn't matter if we're spraying a thousand square feet or we're doing freaking a hundred square freaking roofing jobs. Safety is just as important on both jobs because it's on the thousand square foot job you're gonna get hurt more likely because on a, you know, but on both jobs, you have to be equally as um you're mindful of what you're doing, right? And be safe about it. Yeah, because you can get hurt everywhere. Exactly. What do they say about car accidents? They most like they happen within a mile of your house. Right, yes, when you're almost home, you know, same thing. You're you're getting comfortable with it. Yeah, you have to maintain a high level of mindset to know what's going on. Yeah, being safe and doing all these things is important. Right. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 25:10

So, anyway, I think uh I think we beat this horse long enough on complacency. People are gonna get complacent listening to complacency to down. Yeah. Oh shit. Um, so everyone, uh, thank you for joining us on this episode of Toolbox Talks on Safety. Uh Jeremiah, thanks for jumping in again. Um, it's good to be back at this a little bit. Like I said, we've been on the pause for quite a while.

SPEAKER_00 25:34

It's kind of nice to I mean, it's we're we're we're busy working, right? So that's not a bad thing. I mean, I love being here, Dan. It's great. And I tell everyone, you know, just on a job site, watch everyone's back. And you know, keep your helper in your head, in your head about safety, keep your sprayer in your head about safety, and you know, just watch each other's backs. And it's it's again, it's for us all. Yeah.

Pause, Reset, And Near-Miss Wisdom

SPEAKER_02 25:55

Yeah. And again, if you guys have enjoyed this episode episode, share it with your team, foremans, apprentices, managers, company, buddies, whatever. Um, and take a minute before you get started on your job, take 10 minutes, do a little safety reset, walk through everything, talk about it. Um, and remember, all these resources are available on sprayphone mafia.com. Our Facebook page is spray foam mafia. Again, these podcasts are available at dang near everywhere that broadcast a podcast. So they're they're there. Please use them for uh keeping your people safe around you. Um if you need anything, questions, whatever, comments about us, just hit us up. Uh throw us an email out, um, sprayfoemoffe at gmail.com is the email address or comment on Facebook or anything like that. We are here to kind of do this to help you guys. Um, so don't be afraid to give us a little feedback, and we will accept feedback in person at the end of our breakout session on Tuesday at 11 15. Spencer, I'm sorry, you're going down, buddy.

unknown 27:08

All right.

SPEAKER_02 27:08

Thanks for joining us. See you on the next one.