Spray Foam Mafia: Toolbox Talks on Safety

Podcast #3 Equipment Safety: Preventing Life-Altering Injuries: Essential Equipment Safety and Maintenance Tips from Josh Carney from Graco

• Jeremiah Schoneberg and Dan Benedict • Season 1 • Episode 3

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Could ignoring a minor injury lead to life-altering consequences? In our latest episode, we unravel the hidden dangers lurking in the spray foam industry with expert Josh Carney from Graco. With over 20 years of experience, Josh shares a gripping story of a worker who paid dearly for not seeking immediate medical attention after an injection injury. We explore preventive measures, emphasizing the crucial role of proper TSL fluid and gun maintenance, as well as the importance of keeping rigs immaculate and using the right grease to maintain both safety and efficiency in your operations.

But that's not all—routine maintenance and field safety practices are just as vital. We discuss the simple yet impactful actions, like weekly fluid changes in wet cups, that can save you from costly repairs and downtime. Discover best practices for hose and spray gun maintenance. From reducing worker fatigue with the right equipment to ensuring you always have spare parts on hand, this episode is packed with essential tips to enhance safety, efficiency, and reliability in your spray foam operations. Don't miss out on Josh Carney's invaluable insights that could transform your approach to equipment safety and maintenance.

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Dan:

Welcome to another episode of Toolbox Talks on safety for the spray foam industry. I'm Dan Benedict, Spray Foam Arizona.

Jeremiah:

I'm Jeremiah Schoenberg, technician for UPC.

Dan:

Today we're talking equipment safety with Josh Carney from Graco. Josh, tell us a little bit about yourself. Give us your background, all that good stuff.

Josh:

Yeah, sure. So I've been with graco about 20 years now. Um, I've started in the contractor equipment side, which is basically like your airless paint sprayers for homes, buildings, that kind of thing. I've worked with texture machines, line striping machines, pretty much a lot of different equipment that graco's made over the years. Um, and now I'm in the foam and polyureal world. So I've kind of made a full circle here and been around equipment a long time.

Dan:

Just talking equipment safety. We're all running this stuff, that's, you know, pumping pressures of all kinds of stuff, from low pressure to high pressure, depending on what your version of low pressure and high pressure is Gosh. There's electrical hazards to go with this. There's chemical injection issues that could happen, you name it. There's all kinds of stuff that you need to watch out for on this. So, joshua, what do you see? Why are we talking about this today? What have you run into? What's your biggest fear?

Josh:

Good question, Biggest fear. Well, I can show you some pictures I'll show these guys in the studio real quick here of probably my biggest fear, which is injection injury. And that's not as prevalent on the foam side, because we're running at 1,200 to 2,000 PSI, but you start talking about the protective coating equipment and some of the other stuff. It's high pressure and that can really do some damage to, I mean, skin. Injection is the big one for me. The reason why that is is that if you get injected it doesn't even look that bad when it happens. So guys usually have a tendency just to wrap it up and finish the day. That's the absolute worst thing you can do. The longer you wait, the more chemical is getting coated on your muscles and your inner workings of your body and the more they got to slice you open and scrub. So, like I say, I'll show you a picture I don't like.

Jeremiah:

slice open and scrub.

Josh:

That doesn't sound no uh-uh, so I'll just show these guys in the studio an example.

Dan:

This actually was a guy in Phoenix that happened to and he injected his finger and he just wrapped it up and finished the day.

Josh:

Oh no, it doesn't look that bad it just looks like a pinprick when you do it. Yeah, and so he finished up the day. He woke up in the middle of the night with his hand completely swollen like that and obviously knew there was a problem. And so he went to the hospital and they just basically you can see from that picture filleted them open and started scrubbing.

Jeremiah:

And that's how guys yes, it looks like it's put together from pieces that shouldn't be. Let's see.

Dan:

Is this a picture you can share with us so we can put it up on?

Josh:

the link For sure, 100%, so the guys can see it 100%. Boy, if you see this, you're never going to go without a pair of gloves the rest of your life. So it's just one actually removes. Know that there's a, there's a risk involved when you do that. All that stuff is there for a reason and uh, meant to use it.

Dan:

keep you safe equipment side of things. When you walk up to a contractor's rig or you know stationary equipment, whatever, what's the most common thing? You see that bothers you. What's you know? Is there one, or is there five, or what do you run into a lot.

Josh:

I would say on the, uh, the foam equipment, the number one thing and I I know it's a pain but TSL fluid. If you just change that TSL fluid, man, you will save yourself so much headache over time. It's ridiculous. But the first thing I do is I walk up and I see it's either completely locked up or it's milky. Either way, it's time to change it. Um, but guys, just it's an extra step. I guess I don't like it. It's better to do it more than not enough.

Jeremiah:

I'll tell you that yeah, I, I gotta agree. Yeah, you get on that rig and the first thing you see is a cup full of paste. You kind of know how the day is going to go. You know it's. It's one of those pet peeves. When you see it, it you're like all right, guys, let's start start back a little bit here.

Dan:

Yeah, what else you got there?

Josh:

I'll see. So TSL is one um. Just gun maintenance in general, I think that's another big one. Just using grease, um, which I don't know if everyone knows or not, but we got away from the white grease is gone, it's all the clear grease now, um, so you can make sure you're just greasing your gun. That'll help you in the long run as well. Other than that, tsl fluid in your transfer pumps, I mean a lot of guys don't know you need to get a little squirt of that in the transfer pumps. That'll help too. But that's a big one for me is TSL fluid. I mean everything else is more or less just a maintenance thing, that you'll see clean rigs, you'll see dirty rigs and, to Jeremiah's point, you'll know when you're walking into a situation. It's usually not a clean rig, I'll tell you that that is true.

Dan:

Other hazards to safety that you see more common than not.

Josh:

Big or small. Yeah, I mean on the spray foam side, like I say, the injection thing is not as big a deal.

Dan:

Until you see that picture of that guy's hand's hand. Yeah, I keep having to stare at it and I'm like I I think it's a big deal, man. It's now a huge deal in our world.

Josh:

I mean, as far as other safety stuff mainly it's just ppe, uh, ppe protection and making sure you got fresh air and and that kind of stuff that that's probably the other one that you don't, other one that needs to be addressed, but other than that there's really not a ton of big safety concerns outside of that with the equipment side anyway, Mic stand.

Dan:

Safety seems to be an issue. Today. He's seen him whack himself with a microphone twice already.

Jeremiah:

Head protection when you're doing a podcast.

Josh:

Give him a hard hat. We didn't plan on this. There we go, we're back up. Now we're back up. We get to give them a hard hat. We need to plan on this. Yeah, there we go. We're back up. Now we're back up.

Dan:

We get to all the time is why do we need this? Why do we need to talk about it? And, like I said, we're dealing with all different facets of energy when it comes to this equipment, so why do we need to talk about it?

Josh:

As far as safety goes, yeah, I mean obviously. Obviously you're dealing with voltages and electricity and all that kind of stuff. So you've got to make sure everything's grounded properly and when you're working on something within the rig, make sure all the power to it is turned off. That's obviously the other concern outside of injection would be getting electrocuted. That's a huge one. So that would be the two biggies in my mind would be skin injection and the electricity part of it. So obviously, when you're working on stuff, just make sure everything's no powers to anything, and that's not just with our equipment, that's at your house anywhere, right? If you're going to work on a plug at your house, god's sakes, hopefully. Yeah, breakers turned off so okay.

Dan:

So yeah, back to the back to the like the tsl, yeah, okay, outside of just graco's recommendations, which I'm sure you know, those to a t, what do you tell everybody, even if they are not running the good blue stuff for tsl changes?

Josh:

just regular tsl stuff. I mean it's pretty easy. I mean, just when it becomes milky, it's time to change it. That's it. I mean there's nothing more than that. There's no magic amount, no magic day. I mean, if you can get on a set schedule of every month, you take a look and change out, great, that's good news. But you know, some people would argue I'm wasting money by doing it that way. Maybe, but you're also saving yourself money with any kind of maintenance stuff going forward. But I would say, when it turns milky, change it. That's it. Super simple, not hard, just change it it's about a week dan it's about a week.

Dan:

That's what I'm thinking.

Jeremiah:

It's I mean, I see it in the field. I mean it's, if you're running a normal work day, five days a week, I can promise you that next minute you come back it's a little milky. Yeah, it needs to be changed out, um, because it's not far off. You let it go in a couple more days, it starts to get a little pasty and then then it starts to clog your lines and then you got a wet cup problem. And then, instead of a little tiny bottle of TSL, you're having us come out to replace an entire wet cup system which has you down for three to four hours and costs a couple hundred dollars, and then you're not getting your job done. So it's like Josh said, a little prevent maintenance on the front end is going to save you time and money on the back end. So I, like I said I found about it, once a week you check it and if it's milky you change it out.

Dan:

It's pretty simple and take some paper towels and wipe that stupid jar out yeah, especially if it's pasty.

Jeremiah:

Yeah, don't just try and dump it out and leave everything in there, because just clean the day.

Dan:

Clean the day. Yeah, you're that far into it. It's like if you change the oil in your car and you leave the old filter in, you're like, yeah, this is good enough, right yeah? It's new oil. Yeah, it's new oil. It'll pick up the other stuff.

Josh:

Yeah, it'll be good, good point, good point.

Dan:

Yeah.

Josh:

No. So I think there's other stuff as far as the equipment goes too. That's there for good reason. Like we have all kinds of data reporting on new equipment. They can tell you alarm codes, they can tell you what you're doing right, how on ratio you are. All that stuff is there. You don't have to use it, but you can access it. So, like Reactor Connect, for example we came out with that a couple of years ago you can access all kinds of material that can help you with troubleshooting your machine too. So all that stuff's there.

Josh:

Now some people might say, yeah, it's a waste of money, I don't need all that. Maybe, but there are guys that use it and, even more importantly than you using it, we have a tech team at Graco. When you call in, they can access all that reporting and tell you what's going on with your rig. Super simple, super quick because they have all the data, as opposed to just guessing at it from what you're telling them. They can actually go into the log and look OK, you got an alarm here, this is what's going on. So there's a lot of fail-safes out there that a lot of people may not know of that you can use, and Greco's got a great tech team that you can call anytime to troubleshoot it for you.

Jeremiah:

Really, Dang data information helps you troubleshoot. Wow Weird.

Dan:

Weird. You don't preach that to anybody ever, no, never, never, never, never, no, I don't say that to a soul ever.

Josh:

You have nothing and you want me to fix it? Oh okay, no problem, let me get right on. But that's just one of those things that Greco is trying to help people in the field and technical teams and everyone do their job more efficiently and spray foam more efficiently. That's the whole goal to improve the industry going forward and give people a way to track it and you know, like new home builders, for example, they want to see how much foam you sprayed on a particular job. You can get all that data, you can track it, you can print out a report, show the guy. So there's a lot of things out there that are available, that maybe guys don't use or aren't aware of, but there's a lot of information there for you. And that's what Greco's trying to do is just push the industry forward, going forward.

Dan:

So let's go to the next step for keeping these guys safe and stuff. How would the boots on the ground guy, your sprayers, your hose tenders? What do you want them to look at when they start their day, every day? Or maybe when they take a break for lunch and they're about to fire up again in the afternoon? What do you want them to glance at? What do you want them to glance at?

Josh:

What little keys should they be looking for. That might stop a problem partway through the next session of spraying. I don't necessarily know anything in particular. I mean it's kind of the big stuff If you notice things are going off ratio, you're starting to get B-side heavy or whatever the case may be. No-transcript, and that's another thing. With the Reactor Connect portion you can actually see all that data on your phone real time as you're spraying so you can see if one of your pressures is dropping or something's getting out of whack. You can see all that.

Josh:

So I don't know that it's any one thing in particular, but just keep an eye on the machine, make sure it's running right. That's really, at the end of the day, it's not terribly hard. And I would say one thing we do see sometimes is you'll start to get alarms and they'll go in and adjust it so they don't get that alarm anymore. Well, it's telling you you've got a problem. Now if you take that out of the equation and cut it, you know, cut it you're just going to spray bad foam, and that's what we don't want and that's why all those alarms are actually there. They might seem like they're nuances from time to time, but they're actually there to stop you from spraying because it's telling you you're not spraying good foam anymore and that has all kinds of implications past that. So we're trying to stop you is what we're trying to do.

Dan:

And so far today I've learned I need data and I have to listen. Yes, yes Dan.

Josh:

And.

Dan:

I'm not saying we know everything. My job is so much more complicated than it was before we started this.

Josh:

No, I'm not saying we know everything about spraying foam. That's for sure I can tell you about the equipment. Jeremiah can probably tell you a heck of a lot more about real-time spraying than I ever could, because I don't pull the trigger on a gun very often. So he might be the guy to talk to about that.

Dan:

Some days. What tools, what equipment do you like to see people carrying with them? Or having either the sprayer that's out there on the end of the gun or in the rig? What? What do you like to see everybody to have? What? What do you look at and go okay, these guys have it together, they're going to be efficient, they're going to be safe and they're going to work their way through any problems that may arise during the work day man, I mean just as far as tools go.

Josh:

I I mean a nut driver, maybe a blade, maybe a crescent wrench. They're not in their back pocket. I know they know what they're doing. You don't need a whole lot to work on these things or to keep them running, unless you're going to start tearing them apart. And even that you don't really need special tools or anything. You can tear these things apart pretty easy. So I'd say a crescent wrench, nut driver and a blade, you should be all right.

Dan:

Yeah, let's keep a drill bit with us too, to clean the tips out.

Josh:

That would be helpful. That, too, that would be nice.

Dan:

Yeah, you know, a decent pattern in a day does make your product look just a hair better. Not at all, not at all. Never see that, jeremiah, never once. No, exactly.

Josh:

Well, I might turn it around, jeremiah, what do you see when you're in the field that you think you need, like when you're spraying every day? I mean, is there anything that?

Jeremiah:

Common sense. I'm kidding, that's as available as data and listening.

Dan:

That's why I was laughing.

Jeremiah:

I mean, like I said, the basics. I agree, you don't need a lot. You know the basic tools a nut driver, your knife, your drill bit. You know your safety glasses, your respirator. There's not a lot that you need to do this job correctly, and that's the funny part. You know gloves and stuff like that, ppe, but, like I said, it's, and when you don't have those little things like gloves or a nut driver, your day is definitely a situation right. So it's, it's just making sure you have that stuff before you leave the shop at the beginning of the day. You know, um, and, like I said, I laugh. But yeah, common sense, man, quite honestly, if it's 110 outside, you bring water. You know things like that. Um, you know, and just making sure that you have everything before you get to the job site, because, like any engineering control, it doesn't do you any good to figure it out once you're there. You know making sure you have the list of things that you need for that day before you go, because otherwise you can't work efficiently.

Josh:

Well, I'll tell you. I mean, this is not equipment related at all. This is just a situation that happened in my house this year. I had a guy come out to replace my hot water heater. Went out in the middle of summer, whatever. So he comes out to replace it and uh, it's, you know, one o'clock in the afternoon. We're in Arizona. It's 120 degrees outside. I said, look, man, just come back another day If you want no big deal.

Josh:

He's like no, no, I'll fine. Well, to your point, come prepared. So this guy come out. 30 minutes later he's passed out in my backyard. Oh yeah, yeah. And I'm like, oh crap, like, oh, no, like, to your point, we've got a situation now. So. So, yes, come prepared. And man, just to have all the right stuff before you start the job, otherwise you're going to end up in a hospital like this guy passed out in someone's backyard.

Josh:

I felt so terrible. What can you do? I mean, he just wouldn't take no for an answer, right yeah.

Dan:

Sometimes stubborn does not work to your favor. No, yeah, it's a hard realization for me a lot of days. Yeah, some of the other stuff. I go back to the stuff that cost me tons of money Hoses. What do you guys recommend? What do you want to see people doing with their hoses, not only to keep from there being a problem, but keep guys safe around them? I mean, I'm so picky about where they're laid out because I don't even want people tripping over them. Heck, I don't want people standing near my hoses because I'm so worried about having to replace them.

Josh:

Yeah, Well, that'd be a question I'd have for you. So what fails on the hose for you, or what's the problem area for hoses? Because I mean, I know just the simple stuff of you, know larger loops, you know don't wrap it up super tight, kinks, that kind of thing. But what kind of stuff do you guys run into when you're using stuff out in the field? Is it kinking, or what's the big problem?

Dan:

for you, of course. And again, I everybody that works around me in our company always thinks I'm the biggest a-hole on the planet because I am so picky about where those hoses go. Um, sharp edges drive me crazy if somebody lays a hose over a sharp curb or whatever. Yeah, exactly, there's some. You know, a framer left a board with some nails in it and we're running right along beside that, or you know those kinds of things. Um pinch points we're always worried about with those, um yeah, this time of year trying to find shade, you know, trying to tuck those hoses in the shade Sometimes with the old, old, the foam, for we pulled out to make sure the Sunday and get to it.

Jeremiah:

Just don't warm up too much, there you go.

Dan:

Yeah, you know things like that, of course, wrapping the hose back up, like you said, big loops in it. Don't put connectors on top of the dog ear and your hose, dog ear and your hose and not pulling it off. Yeah, unwind, you get yelled at by Jeremiah for doing it.

Jeremiah:

Don't yell.

Dan:

I make recommendations in a very direct voice In a firm manner With confidence, with confidence, that's right, you know, and, like you said, kinks in the hose. Roll those things out, I don't care if they're all the way back at the proportion, or roll it out. Yeah, you're just going to annoy me all day because I know it's there. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

Josh:

Well, to the skin injection point. I mean, I know we talk about the gun being the problem. A lot of times I have seen skin injection injury from a hose actually going over a tack strip, popping a hole, and what was his first inclination was to grab the hose from stop for leaking. Well, that's the worst thing you can do. You're putting yourself right in the wheelhouse to get it injected. So yeah, not only the gun but also the hoses. If you have a hose break, don't grab it, Just don't have to let it bleed out. Unfortunately, hit the stop, Shut the valve. There you go.

Jeremiah:

That's it. No wrists, wrist injuries, wear and tear on your hands. Well, like I said we were talking about the other day about whips. Fatigue's a big thing in our industry. You know. You're working day in and day out doing the same movements over and over again, so every little bit helps, right. So whips are important, not only because it's easier to use, but also for your fatigue and for your longevity in this industry. It makes it easier and safer as well. Like I said, that little bit of hose is a lot easier to wrangle than another 50 feet, right? So it's easier to wrangle a nice little whip than it is a 50-foot section of hose that you're going to be fighting the whole time.

Dan:

And I believe Graco sells those. We have all different sizes of whips for your needs.

Josh:

Absolutely.

Dan:

Someone has something for you. Someone has those. Talk to your local distributor and get a whip on the end of your own. If you don't have one, go get it today, please.

Josh:

I will say when it comes to whips, there are longer whips now that we have that a lot of guys don't know are available and that helps keep that connection point further down on the ground so you're not holding that up in the air so that leads to your fatigue that we were talking about. So the shorter whips you might notice more fatigue than the 20 foot whip that actually has that heavier portion laying on the ground.

Jeremiah:

That's just a little thing, yeah well, all the little stuff adds up and so you know, a lot of some of the new guys don't realize, like all these little things, like I'm I'm not going to take the time or I don't want to spend a little bit of extras. Like these all add up to efficiency and like the your day being just a little bit easier. And you know, instead of fighting it right, especially at the end of the day when you're tired and frustrated, possibly you don't want to be fighting the equipment that's supposed to make your job easier. For sure, yeah.

Dan:

And any, any steps, signs, anything that guys ought to take in a day that you see that's just going to make things better, not only for the day, the workday they have ahead of them, but the work week, the month, the year, the career. What have you run into? I mean, you have to run into some stuff that's like this is the biggest disaster I've ever seen. These guys don't have another two months in them. And then you probably see some guys you're like, yeah, this is a clean operation, this is awesome.

Josh:

I'll tell you. I guess if you made me say one thing, it would be having extras of things. So in other words, if you're on a job and you know downtime is going to be a problem, have an extra gun ready to go. Don't even think about it, just have it there. Just in case your gun has an issue, just swap it out. That way you can go deal with the issue later, as opposed to tearing your gun apart right there on the spot for two hours and you're down for two hours. You're wasting time and money. Just have spares of things in your truck already ready to go, already ready to go.

Josh:

I think you'd save yourself a ton of money in the long run by doing that, as opposed to shutting down for the day, going back to the shop, taking it all apart, coming out tomorrow doing it again. You have already wasted so much time and extra resources you probably didn't need. But it's just having that extra backup ready to go Now. I mean we have like ProConnect gun, for example. That's got easy. You know, easy swap out. You can basically swap out the whole gun in a minute. That's fine. But again, just having that extra ready to go is huge and I think it's going to help you a lot going forward in business in general, just because you're not going to have customers that are frustrated. They're expecting the job to be done that day and you're coming back two days, three days, four days. It just drags on. So if you can have backups, then it's going to help.

Dan:

Yeah, yeah, for sure, that makes a heck of a difference. Little kiddo rings here and there.

Jeremiah:

Spare parts make your job easier.

Dan:

Gosh common sense listening, data and spare parts.

Jeremiah:

Yeah, we're creating an egg of a list today it's rocket science.

Josh:

Now it's a business plan.

Dan:

Now man, some people might succeed today after this one. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what.

Josh:

No, and I do run into guys that do it right too. I mean, I'm not going to everyone who doesn't do it right necessarily, but there's definitely, you know, people that do it right and have all the spares. Oddly enough, I never hear from those guys and I like to hear from those guys. So feel free to call me if you're doing it right, I don't mind that.

Dan:

Yeah, when you're done two hours before the other guy, give me a shout.

Josh:

Yeah, say hello. I appreciate the guys that wheel.

Dan:

Right.

Josh:

But we do appreciate those guys, no question, and we have a lot of those guys too that do field tests for us and stuff like that, and they're a great resource for, like you said, information and all that. They give us all that and that allows us to make better products going forward. So we appreciate the guys that do it, right.

Dan:

All right, so, yeah, all right, so, yeah, okay. So we'd like to go through every one of these, josh, and just put a call to action out there. What do you want to see people do? We may have already talked about it three or four times, but let's just ram, you know, come right back around, make a full circle here, give us the call to action that we need to give out to all of our, all of our phone families today.

Josh:

All right. So the first thing I'd say is just be aware of the safety protocols. Whether that's skin injection, whether that's power, you know electricity, make sure you're just aware of what's around you. Just be aware of what's around you. I think that's a big thing. Maintenance stuff, throat seal, which please change it, that's all I ask. Just change it, Even if it's every like to Jeremiah's point every week, fine, just change it. You're going to save yourself so much headache going forward. That's a big one. Even maintenance on the gun, greasing the gun, that's another one we didn't necessarily hit on, but that's going to also save you Next time you go to use it. It's going to also save you next time you go to use it. It's going to work right, and so that's what we want you to do there. Can't think of what else we were hitting on. That's the big ones, I guess. Or as far as the maintenance goes, Jeremiah.

Jeremiah:

Well, same things, you guys, these little things that take minutes to do, you know, change the TSL, take a minute to prepare yourself, you know, and make sure that preventative maintenance is done, cause, once again, I keep saying it and I'll repeat it till my last breath is like if you don't take time for maintenance, it will take time for you, and you take a minute now or you're going to take hours later. Trust me, I've done every every other week I'm on a rig that if the guys would have taken five minutes to take care of their equipment months ahead of time, or done one thing every week, we would be sitting there wasting thousands of dollars and fixing equipment. It's really that simple Take care of it, it will take care of you. It's nothing more complicated than that.

Dan:

I think if one or two guys would take the time to on a regular interval whether it be every Monday morning or something to just walk through the equipment and look it over. Yeah, you know, if you have to touch it to know, like, OK, this hose is not leaking, this is good. I mean just something, of course, with it all turned off, Not turned on, please. But you know that first day of the week when the hose is strung out, just walk the hose and look at it. Instead of I strung the hose out, I'm getting ready for it. Just glance down everything once. Take five minutes. If there's no problems, then you're running. If there's a problem starting, you're at the perfect time to make a call or fix it yourself, if you're capable.

Jeremiah:

It's like there's a list that you can have, it's you know, for prevent maintenance, really Prevented maintenance list. I wonder if that's in the checkboxes and stuff where you might be in the books.

Josh:

It's definitely in the manuals.

Dan:

It's somewhere.

Jeremiah:

If you bought your equipment used, look online, they're all there, I know, I know Myself has one, Any tech I know has their own Like. Once again, ask the question, guys. Like there is, I make jokes, but there is preventative maintenance checkboxes and sheets you can print out for your rig, you can get from your manufacturers, your equipment suppliers, your distributors, like we all have them. Once again, you have to ask the questions because we're not. You know we have all this stuff but we can't, you know, reach out to everyone all the time. So if you need it, once again, guys, ask the questions. Right.

Dan:

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Okay, if you need any help on this, sprayfoammafia at gmailcom is our email. Feel free to email us. Uh, josh, we'll get your contact info. We'll post that up there. Get old Josh, jeremiah, get anybody. Please, don't be afraid to ask for help. We're not here to shame you. We laugh and joke about things here, but we are here to help you. That's the whole point of everything that we're doing. So, heck, go onto our Facebook page spray foam mafia Um, ask a question there. Um, there's so many other resources out there. Spray foam mafia um, ask a question there. Um, there's so many other resources out there. Spray foam worldwide. Um, your neighbor, you know your neighbor contractor. He's probably had the same problem you're having today and can probably tell you how to fix it. Um, but I again walk your equipment. Look at it. Look for frayed wires, look for coatings missing, look for guards that are missing. Put the guards back on when you're done working on it, please. There you go, um, uh, yeah, josh, you got anything else pretty hard today.

Josh:

Um, another great source that's out there that I mean everyone knows at youtube. I mean you'd be surprised. There's all kinds of Even Graco's got a whole channel on YouTube for maintenance and how to clean a gun and tearing down lowers, and they have all that information out there. So don't be shy to go, just type it in a search box. You'll find it. And if you don't or have trouble finding it, reach out to one of us. We're definitely here for you. We love to hear from you. Usually I know Jeremiah's on the road a lot. I'm on the road a lot. Sometimes. We don't mind talking to people when we're on the road, so feel free to give us a shout If you have questions. Don't be shy.

Dan:

And you know, coming from a contractor that has just had to slowly build things up as cash flow is available, start buying parts to build up your spare gun, if you have to. If you can't go out and buy a whole new gun, get an extra fluid head, get some extra side seals, get an extra mixing chambers. If you do it, at the end of a year you're going to have a dang near a whole gun sitting there ready to be put together for you. Agreed, and it doesn't have to be a whole cash outlay at one time. And I don't know any distributor that's going to look at you and go no, you've got to buy the whole thing, right? No, yeah, but if that helps, the guys that are kind of working their way along have to count every dollar. You'll get there. Yeah, it'll take some time, but you'll get there, and once you're there, you'll wonder how the hell you ever made it without it. For sure, there you go. All right, awesome Again, josh, thank you. We sure appreciate your time.

Josh:

Thank you guys for having me. I appreciate it.

Dan:

Yeah, good stuff. Yeah, next week, watch out for another episode. We'll be dropping them every week. Sprayfoammafia at gmailcom. Again, sprayfoammafia is a Facebook page. Please like and subscribe on all your.

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